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EMAIL: rarusk[gnat]netzero[snot]com
[NOTE: the [gnat] replaces the "@" symbol in this guide. It is to
thwart spambots looking for email addresses to send spam to.
Simply replace [gnat] with "@" when responding. I chose [gnat]
because it rhymes with "at" and is easy to remember. Same goes
for "." - [snot].]
NOTICE: This guide may only be distributed and/or posted in its original
format (and, most importantly, UNALTERED in any way).
If you wish to post or use excerpts from this guide, PLEASE ask for my
permission before doing so (especially if you work for a magazine or
website). A lot of time and effort was spent putting this thing together and
that should be taken into consideration.
And remember.....
"Respect is everything."
Besides, contacting me will also give me an opportunity to hook up and talk
shop with fellow GTA "thuggers".....
I truly want to thank those who have written to me about this guide even if
you haven't received a response. I tend to read my e-mail late at night and
sometimes I'm too tired to respond right away. Mainly because I'm either a)
updating my other GTA (plus Riddick) related documents, b) hacking up a
console or doing more RGB experiments, or c) I've had a rough night at work
(I work retail you know....).
I've received a lot of nice e-mail about this guide from people around the
world saying how good the guide is and offering suggestions (many of which
made it into the previous revisions). I intend to continue updating and
polishing this document for as long as possible.
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"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" is copyright 2002-2003 by Rockstar Games, a
subsidiary of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. All rights reserved.
All other trademarks and copyrights contained in this document are owned by
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The only change of note in this document is the change in year and a couple
of minor grammar tweaks.
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| Additional Contributions |
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--ejperlock
--magnus jason
--roothorick
--Nick D.
--Kevin Frushour
--christopher greeson
--Keffa
--"Cloud ."
--Janken Master
--Chad B.
--Ripperspirite
--robbman
--Gamefaqs Info
--Josh Lupo
--Kenneth Lowery
--general pepper - Proofreading
--Townranger
--Glen T. Winstein
--Matt McAlister
--Stuart Summers
--GameFAQs Vice City Message Boards (PS2 Vice City Version Numbers Topic)
--cheesewhizz
--ChaosCreator 13
--ElCapo
--denim demon
--KidinHelmet
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| Other Documents I Have Written |
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Strategy Guides
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>>"Grand Theft Auto III" (PS2, Xbox, PC)
>>"Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories" (PS2)
>>"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" (PS2, Xbox, PC)
>>"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories" (PS2)
>>"Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" (PS2, Xbox, PC)
>>"Bully" (PS2)
>>"Stubbs The Zombie" (Xbox)
>>"The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay" (Xbox)
One of the earlier versions of my "TCoR: EFBB" guide can be found in the book
"GameFAQs Presents.....The Ultimate Xbox Strategy Guide" published (in 2004)
by Future Network USA.
FAQs
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>>"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" Suggested Music List FAQ (for Xbox and PC
versions)
>>"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" Hidden Text FAQ
>>"Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" Hidden Text FAQ
>>"Rumble Roses XX" Character Story FAQ (Xbox 360)
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Although my guides and FAQs can be found at many sites around the internet
the latest versions of my work can always be found first at GameFAQs since
that is my primary contribution site.
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| I. Introduction And General Information |
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1. Who Am I?
2. My Setup
3. About The FAQ
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| II. "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" (PlayStation 2 Version) |
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1. PS2 Version Descriptions
2. Cover Differences
3. Disc Differences
4. The Disc Ring
5. Replacement Hints
6. PS2 Vice City Version Summary
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| III. PlayStation2 Original Version (1.40) |
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1. Detonator Bug
2. Cherry Popper Save Glitch
3. Little Havana Glitch
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| IV. PlayStation2 (Original) Double Pack Version (2.01) |
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1. "Trial By Dirt" Altered
2. Song Removal
3. Weapons Renamed
4. Easier To Get Cop Uniform
5. Detonator Bug Fix
6. Blurriness For "Boomshine Saigon" Reduced
7. Cover-Up For "Recruitment Drive"
8. Cherry Popper Save Fix (?)
9. Rain And Blood Droplets Toggable
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| V. PlayStation2 Haitian-Friendly Version (3.00) |
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1. Haitian References Altered Or Removed
2. Tear Gas Replacement
3. "Trial By Dirt" Stats Rebroken
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| VI. "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" (Xbox Version) |
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1. "Two Bit Hit" (Avery Carrington)
2. "Cannon Fodder" (Umberto Robina)
3. "Naval Engagement" (Umberto Robina)
4. "Juju Scramble" (Auntie Poulet)
5. "Bombs Away!" (Auntie Poulet)
6. "Dirty Lickin's" (Auntie Poulet)
7. "Trojan Voodoo" (Umberto Robina)
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| I.1. Who Am I? |
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My name is Robert Allen Rusk and I am a hardcore gamer with about 30+ years
of gaming experience. I am an ex-gametester (Broderbund Software, LucasArts
Games, Point Of View Computing) and an ex-arcade attendant (Namco
Cyberstation - Pier 39, San Francisco, CA).
I also own multiple systems such as the Sega Dreamcast, Super Nintendo,
Nintendo 64, Atari Jaguar, PlayStation 1 and 2, Xbox, and Xbox 360.
I currently work at JCPenneys at one of the malls here in San Antonio, TX.
Retail isn't the best job in the world but JCPenneys is a very stable company
unlike some of the other places I have worked for in the past like internet
service providers or web programming companies.
I started writing guides in 2003 because I felt it was something I could do
utilizing my writing skills gained in college and gametesting along with my
passion for vidgames. Over time I have honed my overall writing and
organization skills plus my creative thinking skills. I have extended the
play value of the games I have written guides and FAQs for many times over
plus I have received many letters from all over the world.
I am also what one may call an RGB enthusiast. I hack my game consoles to try
to get the best possible video from them and that usually involves tapping
into the RGB Analog video signals and using them on the right monitors to
achieve my desires. To this end I became a member of the GamesX.com mod forum
and I post regularly on their "RGB + Video Discussions" forum area.
In addition, I am a member of the X-Otic Computer Systems of San Antonio
(www.xcssa.org), a group who specializes in Linux, Mac, and other systems.
I am also a regular forum poster at GameFAQs, an occasional poster at
www.Atariage.com and Digital Press, and I am also a member of the MOFAT (a
members only message board set up by "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" players
who met on the Vice City message boards at GameFAQs).
Outside of gaming, my interests include Godzilla (I have been a G-Fan since
the age of ten) and Red Dwarf (I own all eight series on DVD).
As far as favorite sports teams go my teams are the San Antonio Spurs (NBA)
[the local team], the Denver Broncos (NFL) [although I live in Texas I am
originally from Colorado Springs, Colorado], and the Air Force Falcons (NCAA
Football).
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| I.2. My Setup |
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This guide was constructed using BBEdit Lite 6.1 and a Power Mac Workgroup
Server 8550/200 (with a G3 card running at 330 MHz). It is now being
maintained using TextWrangler 2.1.2 on a 1.5Ghz Single Core Intel Mac Mini. I
view my work in Safari to help in seeing how it would look on the web and
correct format errors.
I also play Vice City on my NEC MultiSync 3D RGB monitor using a homebrew RGB
box that contains a EL1883 (MacroVision compatible) sync separation chip to
acquire video sync, for RGB use, from Composite Video.
When I do my writing and guide revisions I run my Mac (on a Compaq monitor)
alongside the Xbox or PS2 (on my MultiSync 3D monitor). This way I can
simultaneously play and make changes to the guide at the same time.
The sound is hooked up to an old stereo box I got from Radio Shack when I
acquired my first Amiga 500 in 1990 and it has served me well considering its
age.
For my guide work I have 22 memory cards for my PlayStation 2. I have
reorganized the game saves on my memory cards and I now have eight cards
specifically dedicated to "Grand Theft Auto 3", "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City"
(Original Version (1.40)), and "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" (which uses up
15 cards).
These memory cards allow me to quickly go and try out new ideas (and modify
old ones) when they occur to me or suggested by others.
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| I.3. About The FAQ |
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The main reason for this FAQ is to go into more detail about the differences
between the three versions of Vice City for the PS2 and the two versions of
Vice City for the Xbox.
This document not only catalogs the changes within the games but also lists
the packaging changes so you can help find the right version of Vice City so
you can continue to use your game saves should you need to find a replacement
disc.
This document also lists the complete scripts for the missions most affected
by the Haitian-American protest that led to the creation of the
Haitian-Friendly version of Vice City.
I now have FIVE copies of Vice City (PS2 - Original, PS2 - Double Pack,
PS2 - Haitian-Friendly, Xbox (Original Double Pack), Xbox (Haitian-Friendly
Double Pack)).
I did find quite a few changes for Vice City on the Double Pack. When I
initially posted my findings on the GameFAQs message boards, I got responses
from others that said that these changes were also found in the PC version.
Based on those responses I concluded that Rockstar tweaked the PS2 versions
of both games to be more or less equal to the PC version which had some new
ideas incorporated into it.
However, a gentleman by the name of "magnus jason" gave me some information
that suggests that these changes were made prior to the PC version.....
"i thoght you might want to know that all the changes with the double
pack/original were already in the pal version of vice city original so the
playstation 2 original version of vice city which was realesed later in
australia because of censorship issues (they had to remove hookers) has
all of the changes mentioned in your guide"
In one of the letters from the removed e-mail section, written by Nick D., he
mentioned something about added cars:
"And also i wanted to tell you i found another change they made, which
is that they added a enforcer to the parking lot of the vice point
police station in the DB version."
After completing 100% in both the DP and Haitian-Friendly Versions I did laps
around Vice City hitting certain spots where I found additional parked
vehicles in the Xbox version and tried to find them in the PS2 versions:
>>Love Fist Limo (VROCK)
>>Bus (near Airport)
>>Police Cheetah (behind the Little Havana Police Station)
>>Enforcer (Vice Point Police Station)
>>Securicar (in front of El Banco Corrupto Grande)
After doing several laps in each PS2 version I've found that there are NO
additional parked vehicles in any of the PS2 versions. This feature is
exclusive to the Xbox and maybe the PC version also.
There were also a few changes in the Haitian-Friendly version beyond the
removal of the offending lines of script. I'll go into more detail a little
later.
I believe I have found most of the major changes made in all of the various
versions. If you've found any that I am currently unaware of you can email me
at rarusk[gnat]netzero[snot]com.
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This section goes into general descriptions and cosmetic (cover and disc)
differences of all three versions of Vice City. The aim of this part is to
help you avoid the single biggest issue between all three versions:
incompatible game saves.
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| Game saves from one version will NOT, I repeat, will NOT work with ANY of |
| the two other versions! |
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If you try to load a game save from the Original into the (Original) Double
Pack or Haitian-Friendly Version (Stand-Alone or Double Pack), the game will
respond with a "Load Failure" and then will restart the game.
If you try to load a game save from the (Original) Double Pack or
Haitian-Friendly Version (Stand-Alone or Double Pack) into the Original
Version, the game will crash at the "Loading Data" screen. This will also
happen if you try to use game saves from the (Original) Double Pack Version
with the Haitian-Friendly Version (Stand-Alone or Double Pack).
I should note that Stand-Alone means the non-Double Pack version of the disc.
The main reason for the incompatibility issue is because if you make any
significant changes to the main program the game saves from the old version
will no longer be recognized by the new version. This is an issue that is
unfixable.
There have been many topic threads on some of the message boards about
someone replacing a Vice City disc because of wear or theft and realizing
that their game saves will no longer work even though they thought they
replaced it with a comparable disc.
One of the main objectives of this document is to show you how to tell the
three versions apart so if you need to replace a Vice City disc or want to
play around with another version you can tell what version is what.
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Listed below are general descriptions of the three versions of Vice City
(American) for the PlayStation 2.
The version numbers listed can be found by placing Vice City into a PC or Mac
that has a DVD-ROM drive. Then use a program that can open up text files
(like Notepad (PC) or SimpleText (Mac)) and open up the file "system.cnf".
I've also included the shorthand for each version that I may use from time to
time in this document.
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This is the version that came out on release day in October 2002.
Approximately four million copies were pre-ordered (including mine) before
release day. This version has several bugs in it that caught gamers by
surprise. Bugs like the Cherry Popper Save Glitch and the Detonator Bug.
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When Rockstar announced that they were doing a combo package with GTA3 and
Vice City for the Xbox they also planned one for the PlayStation 2 as well.
They took the time to get rid of the major glitches and made other
additional changes. May also be called (Original) Double Pack Version.
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A lot of Haitian-Americans got mad about how they were represented in Vice
City. They raised enough of a stink to get Rockstar to change Vice City to
remove or alter references about Haitians within the game. This version was
released in early 2004. This version comes as a Stand-Alone as well as
being part of later runs of the Double Pack. The Double Pack Version may
also be called the (Haitian-Friendly) Double Pack Version. The Greatest
Hits copies of Vice City (PS2) are also Haitian-Friendly.
Personally I feel that the Haitian controversy was silly. Not because they
got mad enough to get Rockstar to make changes but because they waited more
than a year to make some noise. During that time many millions of copies
were sold on three platforms (at least ten million among the PlayStation 2,
Xbox, and PC versions). So the changes really didn't make much sense.
If the Haitians caused a ruckus before or shortly after the release of Vice
City, no problem. But by waiting so long they came across as a bit slow
making them easy fodder for all of the Vice City message boards.
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There are two major covers for Vice City: Stand-Alone (single disc) and the
Double Pack.
Both the Original Version and Haitian-Friendly Version come as Stand-Alones.
The Greatest Hits version of Vice City (PS2) is also Haitian-Friendly.
As noted earlier, the Haitian-Friendly version was introduced into the Double
Pack in later production runs.
When looking at the covers for the Stand-Alone discs there are NO differences
between the Original and Haitian-Friendly (non-Greatest Hits) Versions. Same
goes for the Original and Haitian-Friendly Double Pack covers.
But there is something on the lower corner of the back cover that will help
you tell the versions apart. That would be the bar code.
At the very bottom of the bar code are two sets of numbers. The first set
starts with "10425". This does not change from version to version so I will
not use this set of numbers again.
It is the SECOND set of numbers that change from version to version. Below
are the four bar code numbers for the packaging variants (second number set
only):
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| Stand-Alone Package |
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| Original Version: 27145 |
| Haitian-Friendly Version: 27388 |
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| Double Pack Package |
| ******************* |
| (Original) DP Version: 27300 |
| (Haitian-Friendly) DP Version: 21383 |
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If you look at just the disc itself there are two variants of the disc
artwork.
The one thing that stands out more than anything else is what I call the Disc
Banner. At the bottom is the PlayStation 2 logo. The area surrounding the
logo is the Disc Banner. It will come in one of two colors depending on
whether it is a Stand-Alone or Double Pack Disc:
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| Stand-Alone: Black |
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| Double Pack: Red |
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When comparing the Original and Haitian-Friendly discs I found that there is
absolutely NO differences in the artwork. Period. Although I don't have the
Haitian-Friendly-Double Pack discs I can only assume that the disc artwork is
the same between the OR-DP and HF-DP versions.
However, there is something you can look at on the game discs that you can
use to determine what version you have.....
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